313 Suhbat of Mawlana Shaykh Nazim (1195 pages, 71/120)
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heir roots up, as clouds, and coming like this, making everything on earth just sand, sand, sand… Nothing remains or nothing can remain after (those) terrible earthquakes (on the) Last Day, finished! Going to be sands, only sands, nothing else! Subhanallah, Glory to Allah Almighty! Who is spending his activity power to collect so many things from earth, they are looking and seeing only sandy plains, nothing else remains… One knowledge people (are) running after it, for collecting much more (of) this worldřs aspects; they are wasting themselves and their powers fully and finally (they are) going to be, to reach to zero point, disappearing…
But Allah Almighty, He sent to His servants through His beloved Prophets, special servants, that they are belonging to Divinely Řhuzurř, Presence, Allah (is) granting to them some knowledge that it is not going to be finished, or, what you are taking from it, to be vanished, no! Every time (it is) for you and (it is) coming more and more.
Now people in our days, just they left (the) Holy Knowledge, (the) knowledge of springs from Heavens; they left it and they are running after shaytans WC. Shaytan (is) making (the) whole world for its WC, making so (many) ornaments, on it saying: ŖThis best WC; you must come and enter, to look what it is: so majestic… majestic majestic WC! O people, 21st century, come!ŗ and 21st century people they are also fully foolish and drunk, saying: ŖYes, we must visit that magnificent WC!ŗ Ha ha! Tawba, Astaghfirullah!
Dunya, it is written on it that it is (the) WC of Shaytan! Everywhere (Shaytan is) putting its dirt and calling people: ŖOh, people, drink this, drink from that; drink thatŗ- shaytanřs urine… ŖCome, ohhh my followers, I am (the) best one, calling you to Řhigh-lifeř! Drink and come to me, to my magnificent house, magnificent home!ŗ ŖWhere it is?ŗ ŖYou are not seeing that (it is) written ŘMagnificent WCř? I am calling (you for a) biggest feast for you, come and sit with your bothers and sisters!ŗ (The) sisters (are) dressing like this, like that… and men, (they are) dressing in some another wayŗ… calling them: ŖDress - no dress!ŗ Dressing… when last days coming: ŖŘariyatun kasiyat, kasiyatun Řariyat [naked while dressed, dressed but still naked] ŗ - you should find last daysř women - we canřt say they are ladies; lady (is that one) who (is) keeping her honour. That is lady, others (are) women! - you should find, when last days (are) approaching - donřt look to them! Ŕ Shaykh Abdul-Hamid, keep your eyes!
Very happy to look… - you should find from the signs of last days (that) women they are dressing, but they are not really dressed ones. (They are) dressing, but they are naked, naked ones. 'Mumilatun mařilat [walking about in tantalizing fashion] … mish muřminat [not believing ladies] when they are going…, Shaykh, no Sayyid, Abdul-Hamid. (is) looking…ŗOhhh…ŗ 'Mumilatun
mařilat', they are catching people from their eyes… these people, they are running to (the) W-Center of Shaytan… magnificent, magnificent centers everywhere!…What they are saying? Bars… ŖMy beautiful, magnificent centers; you must not sit inside, put outside some terrible tables and sit on it… some people on this way, some others on that way… to look my magnificent WC!ŗ
Shaytan (is) calling (people to) its magnificent places, WC centers, and (the) Prophet (is) calling: ŖO people, donřt be cheated (by) shaytanic advertisingŗ, but (the) whole Dunya (is) full with shaytanic advertisings.
Those people are drunk and they canřt be able to understand from Heavenly Knowledge or spiritual knowledge! They are only running after material aspects and Shaytan (is) making them Řmascarař… people (are) laughing to them, making fun of them…
Yesterday I am putting [my hand] on the head of one student… I am looking that needle coming... "What is on it?" "We are putting, that is, our boss, shaytan, saying that we must put this on our head to be like this, like that"… making people to be fun ones… no taste for this life, for their material aspects, and never going to be anything for their spirituality, for eternal life!
O people, leave useless and poisoned ways of Shaytan and come to taste really from Allah Almightyřs Blessings! One day you must think that you are going to fall on earth and you should be taken to a Řhufrař, a hole, you can find yourself… opening and finding yourself through a dark hole in cemetery…
O people, ask Heavenly Knowledge! We are trying to reach something from (the) Holy Knowledge that Allah Almighty (has) granted to His Prophets. Who can reach, can reach pleasure from Allah Almighty. They should be granted peace and pleasure from Allah Almighty and you should be elected ones for eternal life that you canřt imagine! Your eyes canřt see; you only may see through your hearts, through your soulřs looking you can see, you can understand. Try to be one of (those people that are) granted people from your Lord peace and contentment and pleasure from Allah Almighty.
O people, just time (is) coming so closer, closer, because we are reaching (the) Last Day of this life and Allah Almighty (is) calling people for His Judgment and giving His last, just judgment for people. Try to be for eternity! People, look after yourself, try not to be cheated by Shaytan, because Shaytan (is) destroying your future here and Hereafter and making you to run away from reality and real life that Allah Almighty granted to His servants.
May Allah forgive me and bless you for the honor of most honoured servant Sayyidina Muhammad Ŕ peace be upon him, Fatiha!
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Islam is Defending the Real Faith! As-salamu alaikum Destur ya Sayyidi ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya Sultan al-Anbiya Medded ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya RijalAllah Audhu billahi mina shaytani rajim Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim La hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-Llahi l-Aliyyi l-Azim
Donřt think that you can do something! Even you canřt carry this (tissue) from here. If the Lord of Heavens, your Creator, not giving to you that authority, that power, you canřt spread your hand and your fingers canřt carry this from here up to here! But people they are so Řahmakř, they are so nothing thinking on it, heedless. People they are heedless!
What making you to be heedless?
Allah Almighty just opened His servants… through our beliefs, since 200 years He is ordering, the Lord of Heavens, to be opened for mankind very, very, very weak ray from Power Oceans and giving also authority to use it: that is electrical power. Before it was unknown.
Some people asking: ŖThe Prophets Companions, his Sahaba, they were knowing (about it) or not?ŗ Because everything (is) just coming from (the) Holy Quran.
The power that man can use it, just had been taken from (the) Holy Quran Oceans and it is only (a) very simple, very small thing; (a) very short authority (has been) granted to people for using that secret power. Allah Almighty (is) mentioning: Ŗ…wa sakhara lakum ma fi-s samawati wa ma fi-l ardi jamiřan…ŗ Allah Almighty saying that: ŖO mankind, O My servants! I am giving to you an authority for using (it for) what you are in need: (take it) through this line!ŗ and they were knowing (about it); through that Holy Verse, (the) Sahaba were knowing about (the) secret Powers through (the) Holy Quran, but they were not happy to use it, because, if they were using (it), (they were) reaching (to) what mankind (has) just reached now from power stations. And they were never like to have it, that power and they were using their weapons for Holy Command of Allah Almighty. They were fighting. They were fighting and first of all going to be one rank and another, coming in front of each other. Then one person coming from this one, another coming and they were fighting through each other. Then this kind of fighting going through other ranks of soldiers. And they were coming together and they were using their simple weapons.
Yes, Islam just reached with full or complete or perfect commands! Perfection in Islam! They were not asking to kill everyone; they were asking to fight against others, whom they were fighting to them, defending themselves. They never asking to harm other people, whom they are not present through war field - who was there, they were fighting. Defense for their souls, therefore they were not seeing a reason to make such weapons, because those weapons may be used from
hundreds of kilometers far away (on those), whom they are not involving (in) that war! They were always looking on that point and they were fighting (against those), who (were) coming in front of them, (who were) not saying Shahada, (who were) not accepting (the) eternal declaration - from pre-eternal up to eternal, (those) whom they are not accepting to say: ŖLa ilaha ill-Allah, Muhammad Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam!ŗ
That means they are not fighting for their revenge, no! Their fighting was (for) defending the Rights of the Lord of Heavens, the Creator! They were sacrificing everything for themselves, defending (the) eternal Right, (the) eternal Aspect! That was what they were asking to do! Therefore - they were knowing whatnow people (are) inventing and making: such a powerful and terrible weapons. And they were keeping everything around themselves, they were not running into houses, they were not following people, whom they were not fighters, no! Only, Islam was fighting against those people, whom they are against real faith, truth! Now - people they were inventing and they are making so many terrible weapons, because their hearts getting empty from pityness, getting empty from justice and their hearts empty from mercy. No mercy through the hearts! Now peoplesř hearts empty from mercy, empty from pity, empty from justice, empty from everything that it is good for them and for others! They are only fighting for their revenge; they are not thinking that ŖThose people also they are like ourselves, but they are living on different continents or they have different colours!ŗ Islam never looking that point and fighting, no, Islam was fighting against unpity or non-mercy people. Fighting Islam for those people, therefore Islam using its heavy power against those people, whom they are not accepting real justice, whom they are not accepting mercy for people, whom they are not accepting a goodness to be for all nations, whom they are not accepting to keep believers and those, whom they are not practicing Holy Commands.
Now people in such a way. Therefore they are fighting not one to another one; therefore they are using missiles for example, sending from far distance, from one continent to another one.
Why you are killing innocent people? Why? What they did for you? We may understand their armies making wars, fighting with you, you may fight against that people. Why you are using that violence on children, on women, on ill people or old people or those whom their interest is to be servants of the Lord? Why killing them?
Therefore - Sahaba they were knowing every kind of that power to use it, but it was terrible and no justice, therefore they were not in need to make such weapons. Because Islam coming with full justice, with full mercy, full pityness, full peace!
Therefore, whom coming against them, they were fighting to them only. Whom they were not coming (against them), Islam was keeping them. That is the main point that why Sahaba were not making such weapons: they were saying: ŖWe are not in need, because we are not asking to run after innocent people to kill them and to destroy their homes, destroy their fields, destroy their countries! We are Muslims, we have been ordered to keep everyonesř soul as we are keeping our
soul! We have been ordered to give rights to everyone, as we are asking to be given our rights!ŗ But now people they are saying: ŖNo, we are going to use missiles and we are asking to use rockets!ŗ No need!
We are asking only (to fight against those), whom (are) against ourselves and (who is) coming to fight us! They (the Sahaba) are leaving people who are not involving or asking; particularly small ones, and particularly weak ones: children and women - why you are killing? Which Prophet was saying to kill innocent people? But they changed everything - that is against Islam - and Islam (is) asking to keep everything and to give everyone rights - to them also! That is reason; or Sahaba, so quickly they may do such a weapons, using and fighting. No, no need!
Now it is the time that (is mentioned in the) last coming of Archangel Gabriel to Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam -, to Seal of Prophets, and (he was) saying: ŖO Beloved one, most honoured one in our Lords Divinely Presence! That is my last visiting you and my mission that I am bringing Holy Verses just finished. And I am coming to say Salaam and asking your permission to go andto look our Lords Command.ŗ And Prophet was asking: ŖO Archangel Gabriel. You never coming after this on earth?ŗ and Archangel Gabriel was saying: ŖYes, I am coming for some occasion and every time I am coming, I am taking something up from people. For example I am coming to take up real Knowledge! Then, after a while, I am coming and taking knowledge from people and another occasion I am coming to take from the hearts of kings or whom they are keeping justice through courts, I am coming to carry from them also justice. And I am another occasion coming to take back blessing that coming on earth.ŗ People they were asking: ŖWhere is that ones?ŗ and they are saying: ŖNo more chance for you, because you did your worst and now it is impossible that you can be granted from Allah Almighty as before, to do everything, no, finished!ŗ
Therefore now people they lost their balance for justice. They are saying: ŖWe are running like this, like that, but we canřt cure our ill peopleŗ, because that also just had been taken up. People they canřt be able to look after illnesses; what they may be in need, they are loosing it and they are asking to find another kind of medicines and they forget herbal medicines that Allah Almighty granted to them that Allah Almighty (created) for any (illness its medicine from the plants world)…
ŖI am coming to take from peoplesř hearts mercy.ŗ Now people they are merciless; no mercy in their hearts, therefore they are killing. And they should kill also thousands, or millions, even billions people; should be shot down, should be killed through Armageddon, the worst war and last war and biggest war for manřs history on this planet. Therefore they are using technologia: to make much more powerful weapons, so that if they are sending their missiles and falling down, killing everyone, involving through that war or not. So that innocent people, countless, they are going to finish...
I was hearing also from our Grandsheikh he was saying that: ŖShould be that time no mercy through the hearts of people; they should kill each other, till from 5 billions men living on earth now, may be killed 4 billions and remaining one billion peopleŗ…
O people! Islam coming with full perfect advisings for mankind, but they are not
accepting, they are coming against Holy Quran and shaytan leading them through fire; here they are going to burn each other and the Day of Resurrection they should be taken away to Hells. May Allah forgive us!
O people! You may find every perfection in Islam, try to find it and to listen and to obey and practice! Now, Islamic World also they are following non-Muslim World with terrible weapons. That weapons not for ourselves, we are not in need to use such a terrible weapons against other nations, no! We are the nation of Abraham, we have mercy through our hearts. Whom they lost it, they should fall into endless miseries, suffering and destroying whole world…
May Allah forgive us and bless you! For the honour of the most honoured one in His Divine Presence, Sayyidina Muhammad Ŕ sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam, Fatiha!
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The Good Taste of Life Comes with Servanthood!
As-salamu alaikum, ahlan wa sahlan, welcome Medded ya Sultan al-Anbiya Medded ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya RijalAllah Ohhh! Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitani rajim Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim!
We are asking every support, because we are living in a time it is so difficult time; perhaps from beginning of mankind on earth up today it is never seensuch a difficult conditions, difficult life and heavy burden on people! Whole people that living through East and West, from North to South, they are suffering. You may find people that they have everything, but news... news, that it is a fitna, very bad instrument, that mankind they are inventing such an instrument!
I was on my 12 years old from my age and first radio [appeared], that means 1933 or 34, that means should be now 70 years, 75 years - with my father I am going to a friends office. The first radio, only one through Nicosia, through Turks. And I was listening, hearing that there was a big box - not like this, big box, one person canřt carry it. Opening some buttons and beginning to speak. I am asking: ŖFrom where this?ŗ They are saying: ŖFrom Turkey coming this, Turkish languageŗ, and we were so surprised. And then the owner of that radio was saying to my father that: ŖThis is now not so curious, this instrument, but they are trying to do another instrument. Now we are only hearing, but that instrument, that they are trying to make it, you should see person, that speaking!ŗ ŖHow it can be?ŗ
Really, after ten years, after the end of Second War, this TV, television, we heard that they made such an instrument, as I heard before: you may look and see that person speaking. And first one of our friends from Turkish people. Government making a station for sending (and) he bought such an instrument. And
it was 1947, that means 60 years now, first I am, they are inviting me and I am going Nicosia. ŖWhat is that?ŗ ŖYes, from atmosphere coming and now this instrument taking that pictures and showing people…ŗ Subhanallah! Now technologia, technology, just reaching to a point that they are doing small boxes, even through veins you may look, making like this… and you are looking and seeing so many things!
From some sight it was so wonderful instruments. People they were happy to see such a things. But now it is going to be (the) center of sorrow of people, because every time you are making this, [pressing the remote control] command, coming something that injuring your heart and giving to you troubles and from that views that you are looking and seeing, making you to be sorrowful. Therefore I am saying now whole nation, whole people, they are in sufferings. They are suffering, for what?
Everything happening through East to West; from every kind of bad things, we are looking and affecting onto you. Even you can be richest one, you can be king or queen or president or any kind of peoplesř ranks, but you are not happy, because, when you are looking and seeing that people just killed through bombs and through missiles, homes destroyed, people on ways, small ones running away and coming on them bullets, killing them, no eating, no drinking, you are injured through your heart, you are going to be full with sorrow!
Therefore, I am saying that from beginning up today, earth never reached such a conditions that everything making them to be full with sorrow! And people mostly they are saying or asking not to see, not to hear such a sorrowful news. News making people to fill with sorrow, therefore now people are not happy through their lives. And they are drinking so many wines and such a things that making them to be drunk, because drunk people they are never getting some sorrow through their hearts; they are thinking that - they are using that and they are saying: ŗNothing, everything is okay!ŗ They are running to spend much moremoney for wines and such forbidden drinks, to make their minds not to think, not to be sorrow. When they are coming back they are saying: ŖOhhh, we are falling in hells!ŗ
And people now they are living in hells: Americans, Russians, French, German, Italians, Turks, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese, from East to West, from North to South, everywhere that instrument giving trouble to people and making them not to taste the good taste of life. And good taste of life only going to be with servanthood, but they are thinking that the taste of life with drinking and dancing and using drugs. And coming from bad to be worse, form worse to be worst conditions on earth - everywhere! Everywhere, even most, never improved people through jungle, through Africa, America, people, they are going to be affected and they are trying to make themselves to enjoy, but no more enjoyment for mankind now, finished, because they are thinking that enjoyment with drinking and using drugs. No! That making them to be in worst conditions! And now people [are in] the area of hells, no more pleasure on earth now, finished!
Because people [are] thinking, today [it] may be in Lebanon, tomorrow may be in Cyprus, after tomorrow may be in Turkey, after tomorrow may be in Europe or in Asia or in Africa or in America… (but) everywhere now, look, no sun! No sun shining, everywhere just closed by clouds; clouding, you canřt see sun, that sun giving people hope of life and giving to them pleasure! Sun is sad now and the
sun that giving people pleasure, just under clouds, entering through dark darkness! And people now they donřt know where they may run away, to save themselves, they are shouting everywhere: ŖSOS, save our souls! Save our souls!ŗ They are thinking that this body is their soul. No, but they are asking to save their material being, physical being, not asking real safety and real pleasure that should be, if their souls going to be free from this conditions. They are not thinking on it. They are trying that: ŖWe must look to make our physical being in pleasureŗ and now that door just shut down, closed!
Now people on wrong way giving much more darkness this world and they are not thinking that real pleasure only with heavenly aspects. They are never thinking on it, no, and that is a punishment that the Lord of Heavens [is] threatening people: ŖO people, I am going to punish you, when you are escaping, not obeying through My Heavenly Orders! You should run away to find pleasure and it is impossible to find a place, peaceful place, no, you may go to Mecca Mukarrama or Medina Munawarra, even there that shaytanic instrument on work through streets, through homes and they are taking their share from darkness and troubles and suffering, even they are living in most holy places!
And you are looking Palestine, that holy place, river of blood running there. It is not Allah Almightyřs Order to kill each other; those places only for people to ask pleasure to make Allah Almighty pleased with them and Allah Almighty giving to them pleasure, peaceful life.
O people, you are on wrong way, leave that technologia, run to nature! You are running away from nature and Shaytan making you to fall in hells, here, before second life.
We are asking forgiveness! Forgiveness. Therefore I am saying ŘAs-salamu alaikum, as-salamu alaikum! Ask peace, ask from Allah Almighty pleasure, ask from Allah Almighty mercy and blessings! Everything that mankind doing now, carrying on them cursing.
O people, donřt run after Shaytan; break down everything that belongs to technologia and run to Allah Almightyřs holy places! And holy places may be through East and West that you are doing your building for the honour of the Seal of Prophets, to be humble servants for Allah Almighty and thankful servants to your Lord Allah Almighty. You should be saved; you should be here and Hereafter in a peaceful life, enjoyful life! When you are making Allah Almighty to be pleased with you, He is making you to be in pleasure and pleased. But people never understanding. Never understanding; understanding only language of Shaytan; never asking to understand the language of Holy Books, particularly the Seal of whole Holy Books, Holy Quran, that showing every good way for mankind. But they are like wild animals, they are kicking Holy Quran and running away, but they are falling in traps - traps of Shaytan.
O people, think on it! Allah Almighty not making Quran al-Karim to be a book (that) you are saying story book or Řromanř [= novel]… Victor Hugo, Řromanř writing; Shakespeare writing Hamlet, French Lamartine writing some… they are Řromansř, Allah Almightynot sending to you Řromansř, Allah Almighty sending to you Holy Book from Heavens to reach pleasure, here and Hereafter, but people running away, kicking, like wild animals, kicking and running away. Aina l-mafar? Where are you running? Where are you running? So many nations that
cursing coning from Heavens, they are running away and Angels asking, shouting to them: Aina l-mafar? To where you are running? Run to your Lordřs shelter. His Mercy Oceans may shelter you, nothing else!ŗ
That is. Therefore, we are beginning for our humble meeting what coming to my heart to speak on it. It is important. It is, I am addressing first to my ego and second to whole people: Keep your way, ask your Lordřs pleasure, try to make Him pleased with you and He makes you pleased - here and Hereafter!
May Allah bless you and grant to you eternal life. Ohhh, eternity, eternity!… Everyone knowing that tomorrow we are leaving this life and everyone running to take much more material from this life. They are on wrong way! Be for Allah and do everything for Allah, you should be happy and in pleasure here and Hereafter! O or Lord, forgive us! We are asking Your Forgiveness, we are asking that You may bless this ummah, the nation of Muhammad Ŕ peace be upon him, most honoured servant, most praised servant for Allah Almighty, Sayyidina Muhammad - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam, Fatiha! Sohbet-192 Sohbet from 06.05.07
The Basis of True Servanthood or: Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim - the Key for All Problems
As-salamu alaikum! As-salam qabla-l kalam! Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa salam, Prophet, most honoured Prophet, most beloved, most praised Prophet, was saying: „Before you are speaking, say Salam!Ŗ Therefore it is from Sunnah, from Holy Way that leading people to paradise, to keep that advice from Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa salam - and we are saying řAs-salamu alaikumř!
And you must say, you must ask support from holy people, whom they are governing anything here on earth and Heavens. We must know that we are weak people and we are in need support!
And we must say ŘAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajimř; we must know who is that one that cutting our ways to reach Heavens! Man must know who is their enemy, who cutting their ways to reach to their Lord, their Creator Allah Almighty! Therefore we must say ŖAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajim. O our Lord, we are running to You from Shaytanŗ, that he was first rebellious person, saying in Divinely Presence: ŖI am not accepting, I am not taking care what You are ordering to me to do!ŗ First rebellious person through Heavens was Shaytan and you must say: ŖAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajim, O our Lord, we are running to You from Shaytan that he did his worst through Your Divinely Presence!ŗ First one!
No one can say ŘNoř in Divinely Presence, canřt be! Who is that one to argue with his Lord, with his Creator? How it can be? Must be worst one who [is] arguing with its Creator or with his Creator, what is that? How a creature may stand up and say: ŖO my Creator, what You are ordering to me it is not true, it is wrong! How You can order to me to make sajdah to this one and I have been created before this new creature and I was thousands and thousands years I am always glorifying You and praying for You? And I was thinking that my obedience may be accepted through Your Divinely Presence and I was thinking or I was
hoping that You should accept what I did for You and I was expecting for You that You rewarding me!
But now I am looking that You created a new creature that he never did anything for You, never even one sajdah, I just filled earth and heaven with my sajdah to You and now You are saying to me that I was expecting a reward from You, instead reward You are saying to me: ŘRun, bow to Adamř!ŗ
Heavenly announcement coming: ŖWho are you to say that through My Divinely Presence? Who are you to make argue with your Creator? Devil! Go away! Whoare you to make argue? Quickly get away, get out from My Divinely Presence! I granted to you to be through My Divinely Presence and now you are saying this in front of Me, the Lord of Heavens, the One who created everything including you also, to say to me: ŘI am not making sajdah, I am not bowing to that oneř? Demon! Go away!ŗ
Worst creature that one, and that one he was such a bad person and he was not taking any care what the Lord of Heavens, the Creator of whole Existence including him also, (said); (he was) not taking care and saying to his Creator: ŖI am not bowing!ŗ
This (is the) first lesson for the children of Adam: To know that that creature that is worst creature that created. And he was leaving the Creator and turning and coming to Adam and Eve and their generation, their children, saying: ŖI am giving my oath that, as You making me in that position for all this creatures, I am asking that You are giving me a time, a period to run after those people whom they have been honoured by Yourself, to make them like me, not to listen to you, not to obey to You, not to bow to You! I am going to do my worstŗ - not best! - Ŗ(to the) whole (of) mankind, that You canřt find anyone from those people, the generation of Adam and Eve, to be obedient to You. I shall try , as much as possible to carry them to wrong ways and to make them, t
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heir roots up, as clouds, and coming like this, making everything on earth just sand, sand, sand… Nothing remains or nothing can remain after (those) terrible earthquakes (on the) Last Day, finished! Going to be sands, only sands, nothing else! Subhanallah, Glory to Allah Almighty! Who is spending his activity power to collect so many things from earth, they are looking and seeing only sandy plains, nothing else remains… One knowledge people (are) running after it, for collecting much more (of) this worldřs aspects; they are wasting themselves and their powers fully and finally (they are) going to be, to reach to zero point, disappearing…
But Allah Almighty, He sent to His servants through His beloved Prophets, special servants, that they are belonging to Divinely Řhuzurř, Presence, Allah (is) granting to them some knowledge that it is not going to be finished, or, what you are taking from it, to be vanished, no! Every time (it is) for you and (it is) coming more and more.
Now people in our days, just they left (the) Holy Knowledge, (the) knowledge of springs from Heavens; they left it and they are running after shaytans WC. Shaytan (is) making (the) whole world for its WC, making so (many) ornaments, on it saying: ŖThis best WC; you must come and enter, to look what it is: so majestic… majestic majestic WC! O people, 21st century, come!ŗ and 21st century people they are also fully foolish and drunk, saying: ŖYes, we must visit that magnificent WC!ŗ Ha ha! Tawba, Astaghfirullah!
Dunya, it is written on it that it is (the) WC of Shaytan! Everywhere (Shaytan is) putting its dirt and calling people: ŖOh, people, drink this, drink from that; drink thatŗ- shaytanřs urine… ŖCome, ohhh my followers, I am (the) best one, calling you to Řhigh-lifeř! Drink and come to me, to my magnificent house, magnificent home!ŗ ŖWhere it is?ŗ ŖYou are not seeing that (it is) written ŘMagnificent WCř? I am calling (you for a) biggest feast for you, come and sit with your bothers and sisters!ŗ (The) sisters (are) dressing like this, like that… and men, (they are) dressing in some another wayŗ… calling them: ŖDress - no dress!ŗ Dressing… when last days coming: ŖŘariyatun kasiyat, kasiyatun Řariyat [naked while dressed, dressed but still naked] ŗ - you should find last daysř women - we canřt say they are ladies; lady (is that one) who (is) keeping her honour. That is lady, others (are) women! - you should find, when last days (are) approaching - donřt look to them! Ŕ Shaykh Abdul-Hamid, keep your eyes!
Very happy to look… - you should find from the signs of last days (that) women they are dressing, but they are not really dressed ones. (They are) dressing, but they are naked, naked ones. 'Mumilatun mařilat [walking about in tantalizing fashion] … mish muřminat [not believing ladies] when they are going…, Shaykh, no Sayyid, Abdul-Hamid. (is) looking…ŗOhhh…ŗ 'Mumilatun
mařilat', they are catching people from their eyes… these people, they are running to (the) W-Center of Shaytan… magnificent, magnificent centers everywhere!…What they are saying? Bars… ŖMy beautiful, magnificent centers; you must not sit inside, put outside some terrible tables and sit on it… some people on this way, some others on that way… to look my magnificent WC!ŗ
Shaytan (is) calling (people to) its magnificent places, WC centers, and (the) Prophet (is) calling: ŖO people, donřt be cheated (by) shaytanic advertisingŗ, but (the) whole Dunya (is) full with shaytanic advertisings.
Those people are drunk and they canřt be able to understand from Heavenly Knowledge or spiritual knowledge! They are only running after material aspects and Shaytan (is) making them Řmascarař… people (are) laughing to them, making fun of them…
Yesterday I am putting [my hand] on the head of one student… I am looking that needle coming... "What is on it?" "We are putting, that is, our boss, shaytan, saying that we must put this on our head to be like this, like that"… making people to be fun ones… no taste for this life, for their material aspects, and never going to be anything for their spirituality, for eternal life!
O people, leave useless and poisoned ways of Shaytan and come to taste really from Allah Almightyřs Blessings! One day you must think that you are going to fall on earth and you should be taken to a Řhufrař, a hole, you can find yourself… opening and finding yourself through a dark hole in cemetery…
O people, ask Heavenly Knowledge! We are trying to reach something from (the) Holy Knowledge that Allah Almighty (has) granted to His Prophets. Who can reach, can reach pleasure from Allah Almighty. They should be granted peace and pleasure from Allah Almighty and you should be elected ones for eternal life that you canřt imagine! Your eyes canřt see; you only may see through your hearts, through your soulřs looking you can see, you can understand. Try to be one of (those people that are) granted people from your Lord peace and contentment and pleasure from Allah Almighty.
O people, just time (is) coming so closer, closer, because we are reaching (the) Last Day of this life and Allah Almighty (is) calling people for His Judgment and giving His last, just judgment for people. Try to be for eternity! People, look after yourself, try not to be cheated by Shaytan, because Shaytan (is) destroying your future here and Hereafter and making you to run away from reality and real life that Allah Almighty granted to His servants.
May Allah forgive me and bless you for the honor of most honoured servant Sayyidina Muhammad Ŕ peace be upon him, Fatiha!
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Islam is Defending the Real Faith! As-salamu alaikum Destur ya Sayyidi ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya Sultan al-Anbiya Medded ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya RijalAllah Audhu billahi mina shaytani rajim Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim La hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-Llahi l-Aliyyi l-Azim
Donřt think that you can do something! Even you canřt carry this (tissue) from here. If the Lord of Heavens, your Creator, not giving to you that authority, that power, you canřt spread your hand and your fingers canřt carry this from here up to here! But people they are so Řahmakř, they are so nothing thinking on it, heedless. People they are heedless!
What making you to be heedless?
Allah Almighty just opened His servants… through our beliefs, since 200 years He is ordering, the Lord of Heavens, to be opened for mankind very, very, very weak ray from Power Oceans and giving also authority to use it: that is electrical power. Before it was unknown.
Some people asking: ŖThe Prophets Companions, his Sahaba, they were knowing (about it) or not?ŗ Because everything (is) just coming from (the) Holy Quran.
The power that man can use it, just had been taken from (the) Holy Quran Oceans and it is only (a) very simple, very small thing; (a) very short authority (has been) granted to people for using that secret power. Allah Almighty (is) mentioning: Ŗ…wa sakhara lakum ma fi-s samawati wa ma fi-l ardi jamiřan…ŗ Allah Almighty saying that: ŖO mankind, O My servants! I am giving to you an authority for using (it for) what you are in need: (take it) through this line!ŗ and they were knowing (about it); through that Holy Verse, (the) Sahaba were knowing about (the) secret Powers through (the) Holy Quran, but they were not happy to use it, because, if they were using (it), (they were) reaching (to) what mankind (has) just reached now from power stations. And they were never like to have it, that power and they were using their weapons for Holy Command of Allah Almighty. They were fighting. They were fighting and first of all going to be one rank and another, coming in front of each other. Then one person coming from this one, another coming and they were fighting through each other. Then this kind of fighting going through other ranks of soldiers. And they were coming together and they were using their simple weapons.
Yes, Islam just reached with full or complete or perfect commands! Perfection in Islam! They were not asking to kill everyone; they were asking to fight against others, whom they were fighting to them, defending themselves. They never asking to harm other people, whom they are not present through war field - who was there, they were fighting. Defense for their souls, therefore they were not seeing a reason to make such weapons, because those weapons may be used from
hundreds of kilometers far away (on those), whom they are not involving (in) that war! They were always looking on that point and they were fighting (against those), who (were) coming in front of them, (who were) not saying Shahada, (who were) not accepting (the) eternal declaration - from pre-eternal up to eternal, (those) whom they are not accepting to say: ŖLa ilaha ill-Allah, Muhammad Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam!ŗ
That means they are not fighting for their revenge, no! Their fighting was (for) defending the Rights of the Lord of Heavens, the Creator! They were sacrificing everything for themselves, defending (the) eternal Right, (the) eternal Aspect! That was what they were asking to do! Therefore - they were knowing whatnow people (are) inventing and making: such a powerful and terrible weapons. And they were keeping everything around themselves, they were not running into houses, they were not following people, whom they were not fighters, no! Only, Islam was fighting against those people, whom they are against real faith, truth! Now - people they were inventing and they are making so many terrible weapons, because their hearts getting empty from pityness, getting empty from justice and their hearts empty from mercy. No mercy through the hearts! Now peoplesř hearts empty from mercy, empty from pity, empty from justice, empty from everything that it is good for them and for others! They are only fighting for their revenge; they are not thinking that ŖThose people also they are like ourselves, but they are living on different continents or they have different colours!ŗ Islam never looking that point and fighting, no, Islam was fighting against unpity or non-mercy people. Fighting Islam for those people, therefore Islam using its heavy power against those people, whom they are not accepting real justice, whom they are not accepting mercy for people, whom they are not accepting a goodness to be for all nations, whom they are not accepting to keep believers and those, whom they are not practicing Holy Commands.
Now people in such a way. Therefore they are fighting not one to another one; therefore they are using missiles for example, sending from far distance, from one continent to another one.
Why you are killing innocent people? Why? What they did for you? We may understand their armies making wars, fighting with you, you may fight against that people. Why you are using that violence on children, on women, on ill people or old people or those whom their interest is to be servants of the Lord? Why killing them?
Therefore - Sahaba they were knowing every kind of that power to use it, but it was terrible and no justice, therefore they were not in need to make such weapons. Because Islam coming with full justice, with full mercy, full pityness, full peace!
Therefore, whom coming against them, they were fighting to them only. Whom they were not coming (against them), Islam was keeping them. That is the main point that why Sahaba were not making such weapons: they were saying: ŖWe are not in need, because we are not asking to run after innocent people to kill them and to destroy their homes, destroy their fields, destroy their countries! We are Muslims, we have been ordered to keep everyonesř soul as we are keeping our
soul! We have been ordered to give rights to everyone, as we are asking to be given our rights!ŗ But now people they are saying: ŖNo, we are going to use missiles and we are asking to use rockets!ŗ No need!
We are asking only (to fight against those), whom (are) against ourselves and (who is) coming to fight us! They (the Sahaba) are leaving people who are not involving or asking; particularly small ones, and particularly weak ones: children and women - why you are killing? Which Prophet was saying to kill innocent people? But they changed everything - that is against Islam - and Islam (is) asking to keep everything and to give everyone rights - to them also! That is reason; or Sahaba, so quickly they may do such a weapons, using and fighting. No, no need!
Now it is the time that (is mentioned in the) last coming of Archangel Gabriel to Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam -, to Seal of Prophets, and (he was) saying: ŖO Beloved one, most honoured one in our Lords Divinely Presence! That is my last visiting you and my mission that I am bringing Holy Verses just finished. And I am coming to say Salaam and asking your permission to go andto look our Lords Command.ŗ And Prophet was asking: ŖO Archangel Gabriel. You never coming after this on earth?ŗ and Archangel Gabriel was saying: ŖYes, I am coming for some occasion and every time I am coming, I am taking something up from people. For example I am coming to take up real Knowledge! Then, after a while, I am coming and taking knowledge from people and another occasion I am coming to take from the hearts of kings or whom they are keeping justice through courts, I am coming to carry from them also justice. And I am another occasion coming to take back blessing that coming on earth.ŗ People they were asking: ŖWhere is that ones?ŗ and they are saying: ŖNo more chance for you, because you did your worst and now it is impossible that you can be granted from Allah Almighty as before, to do everything, no, finished!ŗ
Therefore now people they lost their balance for justice. They are saying: ŖWe are running like this, like that, but we canřt cure our ill peopleŗ, because that also just had been taken up. People they canřt be able to look after illnesses; what they may be in need, they are loosing it and they are asking to find another kind of medicines and they forget herbal medicines that Allah Almighty granted to them that Allah Almighty (created) for any (illness its medicine from the plants world)…
ŖI am coming to take from peoplesř hearts mercy.ŗ Now people they are merciless; no mercy in their hearts, therefore they are killing. And they should kill also thousands, or millions, even billions people; should be shot down, should be killed through Armageddon, the worst war and last war and biggest war for manřs history on this planet. Therefore they are using technologia: to make much more powerful weapons, so that if they are sending their missiles and falling down, killing everyone, involving through that war or not. So that innocent people, countless, they are going to finish...
I was hearing also from our Grandsheikh he was saying that: ŖShould be that time no mercy through the hearts of people; they should kill each other, till from 5 billions men living on earth now, may be killed 4 billions and remaining one billion peopleŗ…
O people! Islam coming with full perfect advisings for mankind, but they are not
accepting, they are coming against Holy Quran and shaytan leading them through fire; here they are going to burn each other and the Day of Resurrection they should be taken away to Hells. May Allah forgive us!
O people! You may find every perfection in Islam, try to find it and to listen and to obey and practice! Now, Islamic World also they are following non-Muslim World with terrible weapons. That weapons not for ourselves, we are not in need to use such a terrible weapons against other nations, no! We are the nation of Abraham, we have mercy through our hearts. Whom they lost it, they should fall into endless miseries, suffering and destroying whole world…
May Allah forgive us and bless you! For the honour of the most honoured one in His Divine Presence, Sayyidina Muhammad Ŕ sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam, Fatiha!
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Sohbet from 28.5.07
The Good Taste of Life Comes with Servanthood!
As-salamu alaikum, ahlan wa sahlan, welcome Medded ya Sultan al-Anbiya Medded ya Sultan al-Awliya Medded ya RijalAllah Ohhh! Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitani rajim Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim!
We are asking every support, because we are living in a time it is so difficult time; perhaps from beginning of mankind on earth up today it is never seensuch a difficult conditions, difficult life and heavy burden on people! Whole people that living through East and West, from North to South, they are suffering. You may find people that they have everything, but news... news, that it is a fitna, very bad instrument, that mankind they are inventing such an instrument!
I was on my 12 years old from my age and first radio [appeared], that means 1933 or 34, that means should be now 70 years, 75 years - with my father I am going to a friends office. The first radio, only one through Nicosia, through Turks. And I was listening, hearing that there was a big box - not like this, big box, one person canřt carry it. Opening some buttons and beginning to speak. I am asking: ŖFrom where this?ŗ They are saying: ŖFrom Turkey coming this, Turkish languageŗ, and we were so surprised. And then the owner of that radio was saying to my father that: ŖThis is now not so curious, this instrument, but they are trying to do another instrument. Now we are only hearing, but that instrument, that they are trying to make it, you should see person, that speaking!ŗ ŖHow it can be?ŗ
Really, after ten years, after the end of Second War, this TV, television, we heard that they made such an instrument, as I heard before: you may look and see that person speaking. And first one of our friends from Turkish people. Government making a station for sending (and) he bought such an instrument. And
it was 1947, that means 60 years now, first I am, they are inviting me and I am going Nicosia. ŖWhat is that?ŗ ŖYes, from atmosphere coming and now this instrument taking that pictures and showing people…ŗ Subhanallah! Now technologia, technology, just reaching to a point that they are doing small boxes, even through veins you may look, making like this… and you are looking and seeing so many things!
From some sight it was so wonderful instruments. People they were happy to see such a things. But now it is going to be (the) center of sorrow of people, because every time you are making this, [pressing the remote control] command, coming something that injuring your heart and giving to you troubles and from that views that you are looking and seeing, making you to be sorrowful. Therefore I am saying now whole nation, whole people, they are in sufferings. They are suffering, for what?
Everything happening through East to West; from every kind of bad things, we are looking and affecting onto you. Even you can be richest one, you can be king or queen or president or any kind of peoplesř ranks, but you are not happy, because, when you are looking and seeing that people just killed through bombs and through missiles, homes destroyed, people on ways, small ones running away and coming on them bullets, killing them, no eating, no drinking, you are injured through your heart, you are going to be full with sorrow!
Therefore, I am saying that from beginning up today, earth never reached such a conditions that everything making them to be full with sorrow! And people mostly they are saying or asking not to see, not to hear such a sorrowful news. News making people to fill with sorrow, therefore now people are not happy through their lives. And they are drinking so many wines and such a things that making them to be drunk, because drunk people they are never getting some sorrow through their hearts; they are thinking that - they are using that and they are saying: ŗNothing, everything is okay!ŗ They are running to spend much moremoney for wines and such forbidden drinks, to make their minds not to think, not to be sorrow. When they are coming back they are saying: ŖOhhh, we are falling in hells!ŗ
And people now they are living in hells: Americans, Russians, French, German, Italians, Turks, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese, from East to West, from North to South, everywhere that instrument giving trouble to people and making them not to taste the good taste of life. And good taste of life only going to be with servanthood, but they are thinking that the taste of life with drinking and dancing and using drugs. And coming from bad to be worse, form worse to be worst conditions on earth - everywhere! Everywhere, even most, never improved people through jungle, through Africa, America, people, they are going to be affected and they are trying to make themselves to enjoy, but no more enjoyment for mankind now, finished, because they are thinking that enjoyment with drinking and using drugs. No! That making them to be in worst conditions! And now people [are in] the area of hells, no more pleasure on earth now, finished!
Because people [are] thinking, today [it] may be in Lebanon, tomorrow may be in Cyprus, after tomorrow may be in Turkey, after tomorrow may be in Europe or in Asia or in Africa or in America… (but) everywhere now, look, no sun! No sun shining, everywhere just closed by clouds; clouding, you canřt see sun, that sun giving people hope of life and giving to them pleasure! Sun is sad now and the
sun that giving people pleasure, just under clouds, entering through dark darkness! And people now they donřt know where they may run away, to save themselves, they are shouting everywhere: ŖSOS, save our souls! Save our souls!ŗ They are thinking that this body is their soul. No, but they are asking to save their material being, physical being, not asking real safety and real pleasure that should be, if their souls going to be free from this conditions. They are not thinking on it. They are trying that: ŖWe must look to make our physical being in pleasureŗ and now that door just shut down, closed!
Now people on wrong way giving much more darkness this world and they are not thinking that real pleasure only with heavenly aspects. They are never thinking on it, no, and that is a punishment that the Lord of Heavens [is] threatening people: ŖO people, I am going to punish you, when you are escaping, not obeying through My Heavenly Orders! You should run away to find pleasure and it is impossible to find a place, peaceful place, no, you may go to Mecca Mukarrama or Medina Munawarra, even there that shaytanic instrument on work through streets, through homes and they are taking their share from darkness and troubles and suffering, even they are living in most holy places!
And you are looking Palestine, that holy place, river of blood running there. It is not Allah Almightyřs Order to kill each other; those places only for people to ask pleasure to make Allah Almighty pleased with them and Allah Almighty giving to them pleasure, peaceful life.
O people, you are on wrong way, leave that technologia, run to nature! You are running away from nature and Shaytan making you to fall in hells, here, before second life.
We are asking forgiveness! Forgiveness. Therefore I am saying ŘAs-salamu alaikum, as-salamu alaikum! Ask peace, ask from Allah Almighty pleasure, ask from Allah Almighty mercy and blessings! Everything that mankind doing now, carrying on them cursing.
O people, donřt run after Shaytan; break down everything that belongs to technologia and run to Allah Almightyřs holy places! And holy places may be through East and West that you are doing your building for the honour of the Seal of Prophets, to be humble servants for Allah Almighty and thankful servants to your Lord Allah Almighty. You should be saved; you should be here and Hereafter in a peaceful life, enjoyful life! When you are making Allah Almighty to be pleased with you, He is making you to be in pleasure and pleased. But people never understanding. Never understanding; understanding only language of Shaytan; never asking to understand the language of Holy Books, particularly the Seal of whole Holy Books, Holy Quran, that showing every good way for mankind. But they are like wild animals, they are kicking Holy Quran and running away, but they are falling in traps - traps of Shaytan.
O people, think on it! Allah Almighty not making Quran al-Karim to be a book (that) you are saying story book or Řromanř [= novel]… Victor Hugo, Řromanř writing; Shakespeare writing Hamlet, French Lamartine writing some… they are Řromansř, Allah Almightynot sending to you Řromansř, Allah Almighty sending to you Holy Book from Heavens to reach pleasure, here and Hereafter, but people running away, kicking, like wild animals, kicking and running away. Aina l-mafar? Where are you running? Where are you running? So many nations that
cursing coning from Heavens, they are running away and Angels asking, shouting to them: Aina l-mafar? To where you are running? Run to your Lordřs shelter. His Mercy Oceans may shelter you, nothing else!ŗ
That is. Therefore, we are beginning for our humble meeting what coming to my heart to speak on it. It is important. It is, I am addressing first to my ego and second to whole people: Keep your way, ask your Lordřs pleasure, try to make Him pleased with you and He makes you pleased - here and Hereafter!
May Allah bless you and grant to you eternal life. Ohhh, eternity, eternity!… Everyone knowing that tomorrow we are leaving this life and everyone running to take much more material from this life. They are on wrong way! Be for Allah and do everything for Allah, you should be happy and in pleasure here and Hereafter! O or Lord, forgive us! We are asking Your Forgiveness, we are asking that You may bless this ummah, the nation of Muhammad Ŕ peace be upon him, most honoured servant, most praised servant for Allah Almighty, Sayyidina Muhammad - sallaLlahu alayhi wa sallam, Fatiha! Sohbet-192 Sohbet from 06.05.07
The Basis of True Servanthood or: Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim - the Key for All Problems
As-salamu alaikum! As-salam qabla-l kalam! Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa salam, Prophet, most honoured Prophet, most beloved, most praised Prophet, was saying: „Before you are speaking, say Salam!Ŗ Therefore it is from Sunnah, from Holy Way that leading people to paradise, to keep that advice from Rasulullah - sallaLlahu alayhi wa salam - and we are saying řAs-salamu alaikumř!
And you must say, you must ask support from holy people, whom they are governing anything here on earth and Heavens. We must know that we are weak people and we are in need support!
And we must say ŘAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajimř; we must know who is that one that cutting our ways to reach Heavens! Man must know who is their enemy, who cutting their ways to reach to their Lord, their Creator Allah Almighty! Therefore we must say ŖAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajim. O our Lord, we are running to You from Shaytanŗ, that he was first rebellious person, saying in Divinely Presence: ŖI am not accepting, I am not taking care what You are ordering to me to do!ŗ First rebellious person through Heavens was Shaytan and you must say: ŖAudhu bi-llahi mina shaytani rajim, O our Lord, we are running to You from Shaytan that he did his worst through Your Divinely Presence!ŗ First one!
No one can say ŘNoř in Divinely Presence, canřt be! Who is that one to argue with his Lord, with his Creator? How it can be? Must be worst one who [is] arguing with its Creator or with his Creator, what is that? How a creature may stand up and say: ŖO my Creator, what You are ordering to me it is not true, it is wrong! How You can order to me to make sajdah to this one and I have been created before this new creature and I was thousands and thousands years I am always glorifying You and praying for You? And I was thinking that my obedience may be accepted through Your Divinely Presence and I was thinking or I was
hoping that You should accept what I did for You and I was expecting for You that You rewarding me!
But now I am looking that You created a new creature that he never did anything for You, never even one sajdah, I just filled earth and heaven with my sajdah to You and now You are saying to me that I was expecting a reward from You, instead reward You are saying to me: ŘRun, bow to Adamř!ŗ
Heavenly announcement coming: ŖWho are you to say that through My Divinely Presence? Who are you to make argue with your Creator? Devil! Go away! Whoare you to make argue? Quickly get away, get out from My Divinely Presence! I granted to you to be through My Divinely Presence and now you are saying this in front of Me, the Lord of Heavens, the One who created everything including you also, to say to me: ŘI am not making sajdah, I am not bowing to that oneř? Demon! Go away!ŗ
Worst creature that one, and that one he was such a bad person and he was not taking any care what the Lord of Heavens, the Creator of whole Existence including him also, (said); (he was) not taking care and saying to his Creator: ŖI am not bowing!ŗ
This (is the) first lesson for the children of Adam: To know that that creature that is worst creature that created. And he was leaving the Creator and turning and coming to Adam and Eve and their generation, their children, saying: ŖI am giving my oath that, as You making me in that position for all this creatures, I am asking that You are giving me a time, a period to run after those people whom they have been honoured by Yourself, to make them like me, not to listen to you, not to obey to You, not to bow to You! I am going to do my worstŗ - not best! - Ŗ(to the) whole (of) mankind, that You canřt find anyone from those people, the generation of Adam and Eve, to be obedient to You. I shall try , as much as possible to carry them to wrong ways and to make them, t
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