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313 Suhbat of Mawlana Shaykh Nazim (1195 pages, 101/120)


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but) it is not going to be for everyone. X is saying: ŖI am a cook.ŗ He is cook, but it doesnřt mean that everyone is a cook. ŖI am a carpenter.ŗ It belongs to you, but commonly for mankind? Therefore- man (is) created to learn and then to know or to know and to learn for their identities, and it is impossible (to know) if your Creator- that created you and landed you on this planet- (doesnřt give you that knowledge). He only knows your real identity: who are you, and for what you

have been here, for what you have been landed on this planet. He knows, (and) therefore we are in need to learn who landed us on this planet and what is our common identity, commonly. He only knows. Such things that you are learning, you are doing, you are working, it never gives your real identity, no. Without this works and activities you are all same! That is something you learnt for your life, how you can live, they are all some reasons or some means to reach to your provision for eating, and it is not true that a person (who is) running after his provision with countless means, (is) giving is identity (through these means), no. Everyone (is) running after their provision; that means, it is not their real personality or identity, no. You are architect, you are working for your provision. You are doctor, you are working for your provision. That is carpenter, running to reach to his provision. That is teacher, running, that is sailor, running, that is shop keeper, that is pharmacist, that is advocate, that is physician, that is cook- you are working all this to reach to your provisions, and these (professions) are not giving your real personality or identity, no. That is all the level of animals, nothing else! Animalsř life is simple; they are eating from nature, or they are hunting someones some others, reaching to their provisions. We are not saying a lion is a Řhunterř, no. So many kinds of animals are hunters also, but that is (called) lion, that is (called) tiger, that is (called) wolf, that is (called) fox, that is (called) horse…X. is shepherd of buffalos…in Pakistan so many…Y. is a machinist for cars. We are not saying that he is car, no. People are not using their mentality to understand their position and know about themselves. ŖMan arifa nafsa faqad arifa Rabbaŗ- first you must know yourself! You must reach an understanding for your real being. When you are knowing that, you are finding a way to your Creator! All these things that we are speaking on, are all for our physical being and its needs, its provisions- may be King, may be Grand Wezir, may be Prime Minister, may be mayor, may be MP, may be biggest business man- all are on the same level, they are asking their provisions and they are asking also more than they are in need, because they are saving perhaps millions or billions. For what? For what wasting your time, your life? For saving millions through banks! For what! It is Batil, not giving to you your real identity, no, all of them (are) on (the) ame level for their provisions and asking more, collecting and saying from this temporary lifeřs pleasures. They are running after it to reach much more pleasure through this temporary lifeřs pleasures. Therefore- it is not their identity. Until the Lord of Heavens (is) sending someone saying: ŖOh people, what are you doing? You know who are you? You know about that One that (is) bringing you for a while through this life and then taking (you) away? Where are your ancestors? They were living, but now they are going to be unseen, unknown ones; their lives (are) just written through history books or through other romantic books, but the people, who are chiefs of (the) scenario- where they are? They left you- where is their real being, where they are now? (They) passed away!ŗ And these people (who are) coming are reminding them: ŖOh people, you had ancestors; you are not coming from Heavens in a basket, sending, landing on this earth, no. You are knowing (that) you are coming from your motherřs womb, and I am asking: Where are your parents? Where are your parentsř parents, where are your ancestors?ŗ (They are asking this) to touch their care, to take some care what these heavenly people (are) informing them (of), saying: ŖWhere they are?ŗ And if those heavenly beings (are) saying to them that: ŖYou are going

to die and the Day of Resurrection you are coming back a second time (to) lifeŗ, they are coming and saying- that is for a proof for them that their ancestors once upon a time were living ones, because (they are) bringing (a) handful dust from earth and saying: ŖThis is (from) our ancestorsř grave, we are bringing only their dust- how you are saying: ŘThese people (are) coming once again (to life)ř?ŗ They are knowing that once upon a time they were living ones, but now they disappeared; they are becoming dust through earth, finished. But it is a proof that they are knowing that their ancestors lived and finally they are going to be dust, and they are saying: ŖHow it can be?ŗ approving that they had ancestors once upon a time. And this (is) signing that identities are not (that) what you are looking when they are walking and living on earth, no, it is not your real being. If you have a real being, you must continue your life; but it belongs to (a) material world that is coming and finally going to be dust. To them people to be awakened, Allah Almighty is sending (someones) to people to make them (to) wake up, to awake and to think on it: ŖHow happened? How happened (that) we are living today and tomorrow we are not living creatures!ŗ When Prophets (were) coming they were asking to teach people about their creation and about their importance and about their mission and their creation., and when they were coming and learning this, they were asking: ŖWho created us?ŗ (First) you must learn this. When you are learning this, you are getting up from the level of animals and you are going to ask: ŖWho (is) bringing us in existence? Our existence is not from ourselves, no. If it was from ourselves, we (were) never going to be dust; we are not going to die, to be dead ones.ŗ When people (are) reaching to that level of knowledge- that Islam is saying: To learn is an obligation for men and women, because bothof them are the Children of Adam and they must know their identities, they must learn about themselves- when they are learning (this), they are asking: ŖWho is that One that (is) bringing us in existence?ŗ (And so), secondly, (they are) coming to know and learn about the Lord of Heavens. When you are learning about yourself, you are asking: ŖWho is our Lord? We are looking that no one can be Lord because Lord, His Existence (is) never-ending, from pre-eternal up to eternal (He) must be the Lord of creation. We canřt be Lords! Who going to die, finish and vanish, (he) canřt be Lord! Therefore our position must be different from the position of our Creator. He is Lord, but we are not Lords!ŗ Then (the) Prophets (are) saying: ŖYou are His servants! He is creating you for His divinely Service! Oh people! Try to learn about your Lord and try to be His obedient servants in His divinely Presence!ŗ May Allah forgive us! People are drunk! That is (the) level of people now; they are saying Řcivilizationř(for it), Ř21ST centuryř- what is (the) difference among other centuries and this century? People (are) on (the) same level, they are not changing their position; everyone (is) running either for their provisions or running after how they should enjoy themselves more and more, nothing else! People (are) running to reach even (a) less (part) from their provision and (the) other group of people (is) running to reach more and more pleasure for this life. (They are) on (the) same characteristic: poor ones (and) rich ones. Poor ones (are) running after their daily provisions, (and) rich ones (are) running after to save much more money, to reach enjoyment, to live a life full with pleasure, more pleasure, more pleasure- on same level. No one (is) thinking more than this on earth. I donřt know (anyone)! If you know someone that is asking to know

(something) beyond these limits on earth- up today I am not seeing, except Anbiya and Awliya. All (other) people (are) on that lowest level, occupied through their physical beingřs desires. They are surrendered to their egos. If you say: ŖCome and surrender to your Creatorŗ, they say: ŖWe are not slavesŗ, but (really) they are slaves for their egos and they are servants and slaves for their physical desires. May Allah forgive us! When we are passing this level, we are feeling (something else), our feelings (are) coming to change 1oo %, because the conditions, when you are passing up, they are not (the) same conditions, (but they are) just 1oo% different. And if you are asking the refreshment for your beings and endless pleasures, you must cut this distance out, you must surrender to your Lordřs Will and that Will is taking you up, taking you to a level that you are going to be belonging to heavenly beings. If not, you are belonging to the level of animals. May Allah forgive us! For the honour of the most honoured one in His divinely Presence, S.Muhammad sws, Fatiha.

Sohbet-281 Tuesday, 8th (Manřs personality consists of his soul and his ego; the ego is our soulřs ride in this material world- the Prophetřs Night Journey happened with his spiritual and his physical being- man is imprisoned through their material being and the 6 senses cannot take you out of the material world- every material needs to be transformed into a power to be useful- we need to listen not only with our physical ears, but also with our hearts ears to understand about realty and to accept truth and that gives you the power to move beyond the limits of the material world to your real target)

Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitani rajim, Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, la haula wa la quwatta illa bi-llahi-l ŘAliyu-l ŘAzim…By the Name of Allah Almighty, all Merciful, most Beneficent and most Magnificent. We are asking from Allah Almighty to make ourselves to hear holy speech through our heartsř ears! Not from here… Everyone (is) hearing from these (physical) ears, but mostly they are hearing from this side…, sending (it out) from the other side. We need something to take benefit for our beings. When we are saying Řour beingsř, that (is) your personality, your identity. Someone (was) coming and asking me about the Last Day that we areleaving this life, what should be through death or after death through our grave or on the Day of Resurrection or through Hells or coming in Paradises, asking if our egos and our souls are going to be separated? That means, (if) our souls are going to one side, (and) our egos, (our) nafs, (are) going to another side. As some people in (the) Islamic world, some learned people, they were discussing about the Prophetřs Night Journey, if it happened spiritually or physically. Some people were claming that it happened spiritually, not physically, (and) that is a wrong answer to say for (the) Prophetřs Night Journey; to make (the) Prophetřs personality two personalities: one personality represented by his soul, honoured soul, and (the) second part (to be) represented by his nafs, ego. No! (The) Night Journey happened to Muhammad- peace be upon him- and his personality, with his soul and nafs. If we are saying, (for example), (that) a person reached to (a) Sultanřs royal presence, you are saying (that) this person reached to (the) Sultan with himself riding on his horse. (He is) reaching to his royal presence

(and) he is in his original creation; that ride belongs to him and without that (he) canřt move through this material life. And we also, when we have been sent (here), our souls (have been sent) here, we need that ride for this life and that (ride is) our ego, (so that) we are going to be in one personality with our egos. The perfection of man (is) to be with his soul and with his nafs, his ego- one personality. Therefore, if we are reaching to (the) graveyard we must be on (the) same personality. If we are coming to the Day of Resurrection, coming our souls with their ride on the Day of Resurrection. When Allah Almighty is calling (us) for our Judgment, we must be ready, as we are now. Therefore, we are living in a life (that) it is difficult for understanding such things, if you are not hearing realities through your heart. If you are hearing only through your ears, it is going to be passed away, but when you are hearing with your heartřs ears, it is for you. And we are asking from Allah Almighty to grant us to listen (with) our whole being, our personality, what had been sent from Heavens on earth through Prophets and their inheritors. All troubles now- we are living in the time of troubles- it is (because) man (is) making everything for understanding through their physical being and (the) physical beingřs feelings (only). Every time our physical senses (are) coming in front of people and saying: ŖYou must understand what I am saying to you. Beyond this you must not listen, you must not hear, you must not ask!ŗ Now all mankind is imprisoned through their material being, never asking beyond that (material) senses anything else. And really beyond our material senses that belong to our physical being, (there are) unlimited worlds, unlimited creations that or physical being canřt reach to that limits, (but it) only must be in its material limits. Material limit- what (it) is going to give to you? 6 senses- what (they) can give to you? 6 senses (are only) touching everywhere (the) material worldřs walls, touching. As there is an aquarium, in it fish running and coming, touching glass, getting back, canřt be able to get out- now peopleřs senses (are) only reaching material limits, but material limits are not the end of creation. If you are saying: ŖMaterial limits are the end of creationŗ- where is the Creator of that material world and material limits? If you are saying: ŖBeyond this (there is) nothingŗ- how it had been (brought) in existence the globe of world or the globe of Venus, or the globe of sun? How it can be? If themselves (are) going to be in that limits, material limits- you know this is material; that means: if you are not using a power to push, to bring, to show it, that means by itself material canřt work. Now everything, every machine that mankind (is) using… they canřt be able to use material as (it is in) its real form, to use it. For example oil, petroleum. If mankind is asking to use it as it is, (for example), one gallon (of) petrol, if you are pouring it into a car, (is it) making it to move? No! That must be changed into another condition. Petroleum (is) changing from material being into another being that there is a secret power in it. When it is going to be in (that condition), coming to be such (a) gas, and with that condition it is working, making something. Or (else), through one barrel of petroleum, if you are putting (it into the car) and lightening (a) match, going to be fire. But one bottle like this, petroleum, if you are putting it in its special situation, special condition, changing and making, coming power, and that power (is) making (it) to move. Like this. Taking a car perhaps 10 litres, 15 litres, (and that is) making it to move 15 km or 20 km, this secret that never belongs to

material world. But people are heedless to ask for that point what is that? How this one litre (of) petrol (is) going to carry a heavy vehicle to run and you are in it, what is that? They are not asking: ŖHow is it going to be changed, how it is workingŗ, because people (are) just imprisoned through (the) material worldřs limits. (They are) in it. But (there are) so many signs that the Lord of Heavens (is) giving them signs, but they are not thinking. I am looking swallows- think on it! They are so quickly flying and coming. What they are eating, what they are drinking? They are hunting mosquitoes- (as) they are saying- and (they are) coming through hundreds or thousands of kilometres from one continent to another, flying without taking refill. Which power (they are using)? Material power using? Through this material world so many examples we may bring and we may show that there is something beyond (the) material world that (is) making everything to move and to reach to their real targets through this life! But people (are) never thinking on it, they are saying: ŖMaterial worldŗ only. And that is an example to make people to know, to understand, that (the) material world canřt be by itself in existence or (that) they canřt be able by themselves to move, to act without taking anything for their outer directions, without taking a power to make them to run or to turn or to be in existence. Look sun, look moon! Do you know something that is running and (at the) same time it is standing? We are looking (that) it is not moving, (and at the) same time we are looking (that) it is moving? Oh learned people! Sun! You are looking, (it is) standing there, then you are looking it is here, but you are not seeing (that it is) running like (a) plane. Or (the) moon. Maghreb time, sunset time, it is rising, but you are not seeing that it is moving. You see (that) it is in its position standing, and then, until you are coming from Isha prayer, you are looking that: It was standing there, (but now) we are finding it here! By itself (it is) moving? That is (the) material aspect or thing that we are looking it is moving, but no one (is) seeing how it is moving- behind (it there is) someone pushing it or in front (someone is) pulling it? How they are denying (that) beyond (the) material world there is another world? How (they are) saying: No? How (they) imprisoned themselves through the material world? No mind people! No mind people, never thinking on such things. I was looking (to the) school diplomas of children and what they are teaching to them. They are teaching nothing! They are always escaping not to touch reality. Escaping, not making children to look and to think on it. Say: How a swallow is coming thousands of kilometres distance andcoming, finding its nest? It is using (a) radar? It has (a) radar showing (the direction) or something like that? (And) if (they have all the) same radar, (they) must come all to one place. So many kinds, millions of swallows (are) going to their homeland and coming for holiday- how they are saying (there is) only (the) material world? That is satanic teaching not to say: ŖThere is another world behind (the) material world, which is not material (and) it belongs to the Creator that makes as He likes.ŗ Trouble for mankind (is) coming from wrong ideas, wrong teachings, wrong learning- making people to be imprisoned through thisheavy material world and its heaviness (is) killing people. Killing (them) and also taking their identities, making them as rocks or as trees or as animals. If people are not coming to accept truth, (it is) impossible (for them) to

save themselves by themselves. No! Leave yourself in the hands of the Lord of Heavens to take you safely to your real destination. Now all people (are) on (a) wrong destination; (they are) asking a destination, (that they are) thinking it is (a) perfect destination, (but) no, it is (the) satanic destination that Shaitan is pulling them (to it, saying): ŖCome, come, come after me!ŗ All universities and educational systems (are) imprisoned through materialism, (through the) material world and (they are) denying (anything) beyond our 6 senses, saying: ŖNo!ŗ They are so foolish ones! (They are) not bringing such realities through the eyes of youngsters to understand. Their whole effort is not to understand and accept anything beyond (their) material being. Therefore we are asking from Allah Almighty to make (these) real aspects that we are hearing (now) to be heard through our heartsř ears (also). That gives us power to move beyond (the) material world also. If you are not putting that power that is a grant from Allah Almighty, if you are not granted that, you canřt move beyond (the) material world. When (it is) coming through our heart- that power beyond (our) 6 senses that makes you to move beyond (the) material world- that is freedom! Now we are imprisoned. May Allah forgive me and grant you from His endless Blessings for understanding something. That is ŘMarifatř, holy Knowledge, what we are speaking on, holy Knowledge, to make people free from (the) prison of (their) material being so that we may use our spiritual being to pass (our) material being beyond unlimited oceans, unlimited and unknown Territories and Dominions of the Lord of Heavens. May Allah accept us! For the honour of His most honoured servant in His divinely Presence, S.Muhammad sws, Fatiha.

Sohbet-282 Sunday, 6th (People are only learning knowledge concerning their physical being only, and Allah honoured Adam and His Children with the knowledge of His Holy Names- each holy Name leads to an ocean for our soul, our real being, and makes us closer to His divinely Presence, to know Him and to be more suitable for His service, but people are asking to be themselves lords on earth, not to be servants and deputies for the Lord- the Day of Resurrection you will be asked if you know your Lord and if you did your best for Him)

Destur ya Sayyidi, ya Sultanu-l Anbiya, Meded, ya Sultanu-l Awliya, Meded…Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitani rajim, Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, la haula wa la quwatta illa bi-llahi-l ŘAliyu-l ŘAzim…Subhanaka, la Řilma lana illa ma Řalamtana… This is an association- the way of Prophets, the way of Salihien, the way of Awliya, Saints. Without (a) Prophet and without associations (with him) which means (the Prophet) to sit with common people, man (is) never going to reach to their real target of this life. Everyone coming, (being) born, knowing nothing; then, day-by-day, we are learning something that we can reach to support our physical being: how we can live, with which means we can live. And that knowledge we are saying (is the) knowledge of (the) level of animals. Animals donřt speak to each other; they are just directed to those targets that they (are) created for. They are under divinely direction, they are directed. Man also is directed through their parents; (they are) learning something

that with that knowledge they can continue to live on this planet up to their last moment, that just Allah Almighty (is) giving them a limit for their life. Up to that limit they are learning something and they continue on that way. That knowledge belongs to our physical being that our physical being belongs to (the) animals world. What animals need for living and bringing their generation to continue, on (that) same level mankind is learning. First of all (they are) learning from their parents. Day-by-day, when (they are) growing, they are learning. Now we are looking and seeing that (there are) so many kinds of knowledge just on act and people (are) running to learn something- but what they are learning? They are leaning what is concerning their physical being. You may say now nations have hundreds, thousands, ten thousands (of) elementary schools, secondary schools, gymnasiums, universities, academies and so on- what they are learning through these thousands and thousands of schools? What they are asking to learn and which thing schools are teaching people? It is an important point! Someone may be a physician, someone an architect, some (other) one (is) going to be artist, someone engineer…learning, learning- through universities and schools (there are) so many knowledges and also people (are) learning handcrafts- (but) all of them for what? It is only for one target: People (are) asking to live and reach higher levels of this life, (that) all of them belong to our physical being, (asking): ŖHow I can be able to reach a satisfaction with my efforts, to (reach a) high level life for my physical being?ŗ Thousand kinds of schools, universities, people are saying: ŖWe learned in Indonesia. It is not enough, we must go to London Universityŗ, some others (are) saying: ŖWe must go to Harvard universityŗ- for what? I was looking in a newspaper yesterday and it was written that now the Turkish Prime Ministerřs son is learning through Harvard University, they are saying. ŖWhere is it? On moon or on earth?ŗ I am asking. ŖMy son is in Harvard University.ŗ These foolish ones here also running to reach high-level life. It is no good to be in Caribbean island, we must do a long jumping from (the) Caribbeans to England or from England to US university (of) Harvard!ŗ Jumping. (The) Prime Minister (is) very proud that his son (is now) learning in Harvard university. What you are learning? For your stomach, for your physical being, and what is the result? (A) Harvard doctor is not going to toilet? He must not go to toilet, WC! And he is graduated from Oxford! What is the result? I am asking: ŖNot going to WC?ŗ Everything (they) may learn, but (the) last point is to reach to WC. Whole efforts of people, what is its last station? WC station! What is the benefit? All that knowledge (is) making people to reach even (a) high life, (as) they are saying- but (they are) coming from high life to ŘWC lifeř. Whole knowledgeřs final point, final limit, is (the) WC. They learnt and its summary (is) that they must go to that place to look the summary of their knowledge… Then there is common knowledge for everyone; without learning through universities they are learning it, only they are claming to have a diploma for it, but (the) result (is the) same. (Even) who has not learned anything, he (also) knows what the physical being is asking. If a person is bringing a diploma from Harvard or Oxford- (it is) not giving anything else, (but it is) same. Same result for all of them. (For) that knowledge they wasted their time, but if a person is not knowing anything, (he has the) same result.

Allah Almighty is giving honour to you, oh man, and your honour is with some knowledge. Allah Almighty is not honouring you through your ride; (He is) not giving honour to you through your ego, not giving to you honour with your outlooking, with your colour, with your height or shortness or to be big. (He is) not looking (to) that. Allah Almighty is never giving honour to you looking to your creation. He designed everyone as He likes! No one can object on it. It makes Allah angry to say: ŖI am short, I must be tallŗ. ŖI am so fat, I must be thinŗ... No one can say: ŖMy colour, I donřt like it.ŗ Pu! on that person who is saying this, fighting (his Lord)! ŖYusawiyu fi arhama ma yashaŗ- Your Lord is giving your model and design to be man or woman- black, white, yellow, red- donřt speak on it! That is foolishness. Everyone in divinely Presence is honoured- through their souls, not through these forms, and people are running to make their forms (like) Řmodelř, Řmannequinř: ŖOh my Darling, how I can do? If I am dressing such mannequin dress?ŗ What is that foolishness? This (physical being) is a dress (that) Allah dressed on us, but He is asking and He granted us another honour, not looking to your colour, your sex, your dressing, no! Something He granted. People (are) never taking care for that honour, running after outlooking forms to make it another: every year, every month (dressing a) new fashion, thinking that if they are dressing every month another fashion (they are) going to be another personality. No mind people! Now full all (the) world (with them) and that is (the) reason of fighting, wars- (it is) only for their physical being. Allah Almighty was teaching Adam a.s. all (of His) Names; something that He is saying (for it) ŘNamesř, but every Name is leading to an ocean for our souls, for our real being. That knowledge Allah Almighty was giving and teaching Adam and giving honour to Adam over (the) Angels for that reason. When Allah Almighty was saying: ŖIf you are looking and seeing (that) Adam that I created him, he is not suitable for this honour, you come and say what you are knowing!ŗ What Adam knows that is another knowledge thatis giving more honour to our real being. Now people lost it, they forget it, they are running after this physical figure and its desires, that (are) finishing. Allah Almighty was sending Prophets to teach people some knowledge that is so precious! Through that precious knowledge you can be in divinely Presence closer to His divinely Presence and you are going to be more suitable for His divinely service. People now (are) running on a line that (is) never reaching to an end; (they are) never changing their level, all of them (are) on (the) same level, no one (is) asking to go up. No one (is) running after the teachings of (the) Prophet sws. You know any university teaching heavenly knowledge? They are saying: ŖIt is banned to speak in our university (about) heavenly knowledge, traditional knowledge. We are not accepting.ŗ As Nimrod was saying: ŖI am on earth and your Lord is on skiesŗ- mankind (is) now on (the) same characteristic and Allah Almighty should take them away, giving their punishment from someone to others, from others to someone. No peace! If (they are) not changing their level to ask real knowledge from their Lord that (He) just granted (to) us through His Prophet, (there will be) no peace, no rest, no satisfaction no blessings here and Hereafter also. The Day of Resurrection (when) Allah Almighty (is) calling one after one, asking: ŖOh My servants, what you learned?ŗ - what you are going to say? ŖWhat you learned? ŖOh my Lord, I learned how I can built a palaceŗ or: Ŗhow I can be a good engineerŗ, or this or that, something…ŗLeave that! Did you

do anything for your Creator, for Me? What you know about Me? What you learnt? If you say: ŘI learntř- did you
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